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Burma
Aug 31, 2006 15:51:28 GMT 7
Post by oldmike on Aug 31, 2006 15:51:28 GMT 7
I've just come back from a short holiday in Burma. Wonderful place, if you do not want too much night life, wonderful people. I would go again tomorrow. Did not see anyone being repressed and felt I was adding to the wellbeing of the country. What do you think?
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Burma
Sept 1, 2006 18:25:50 GMT 7
Post by Are you ok on Sept 1, 2006 18:25:50 GMT 7
Didn't see anybody being repressed??? Well, of course. First of all, you are only allowed to visit some areas. Second, do you think they torture people in the streets? You should read the Amnesty international information about Burma, or the KHRG information about the ways they oppress the ethnic minorities! This photo represents a landmine that the SPDC planted in front of a church's front steps (the mine is on the right, with a cigarette lighter placed to the left of it to indicate its size): You have many other photos at khrg.org/photoreports/2005photos/gallery2005/section1.htmlSo, you really haven't seen anybody being repressed? Are you for real?
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Burma
Sept 1, 2006 22:04:32 GMT 7
Post by oldmike on Sept 1, 2006 22:04:32 GMT 7
Yes, I am for real. So, you have a digital picture supposed to be showing what you say is a land mine placed in front of a church. We saw cathedrals in Yangon in good condition. Is it better to stay away or to go and spend money there?
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Burma
Sept 2, 2006 15:47:34 GMT 7
Post by Are you ok on Sept 2, 2006 15:47:34 GMT 7
Sorry old mike, let me give you some better pictures: Naw K--- from T--- village in Lu Thaw township, Papun district, lost both her legs to a landmine planted by SPDC troops. Unlike many others, she was lucky to survive, was operated on by a skilled medic and was given two prosthetic legs (right foreground), but she says everything in her life is very hard now. [Photo: KHRG]. There are more here: www.khrg.org/photoreports/2005photos/gallery2005/section5.htmlPlease inform yourself a little bit more before going on message boards maintaining that the brutal regime of Burma does not repress anybody! Millions of people suffer every day, and you are not helping anybody, except the Burma military. Read Amnesty International, the Online Burma/Myanmar Library, khrg, and many other well documented sites that make public the crimes against humanity of the Burma military. The Burmese is one of the most brutal regimes around, and saying that you Did not see anyone being repressed is probably the stupidest thing you ever said in your whole life.
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Burma
Sept 2, 2006 16:39:48 GMT 7
Post by mimi on Sept 2, 2006 16:39:48 GMT 7
Old Mike - Do you honestly believe that taking a holiday in Burma is a good move for the Burmese people, or don't you care? If you really believe people should go there, then please put forward your argument. If you really don't care, and ticking another place off in your list of countries visited is more important to you than making a stand against a brutal regime, then I'm lost for words.
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Burma
Sept 2, 2006 16:42:23 GMT 7
Post by mimi on Sept 2, 2006 16:42:23 GMT 7
Are you OK - I just looked at the website. The photos you showed are actually about the least shocking ones on the website.
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Burma
Sept 2, 2006 17:58:05 GMT 7
Post by oldmike on Sept 2, 2006 17:58:05 GMT 7
" Did not see anyone being repressed is probably the stupidest thing you ever said in your whole life. "
It is a simple statement of fact.
Clearly I thought going there would be a good thing for the people of Burma. Sure, much of the money we paid for our tour went to an opressive, or, more accurately, lunatic regime. But lots of people would not have jobs at all if people like us did not go there. Nobody we saw, and some were surprisingly critical of the regime, said we should have stayed away. We went to local markets and temples where everybody cannot have been in the pay of the state. In my opinion we did more for the Burmese people by going there than we would have done by staying away.
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Burma
Sept 4, 2006 8:02:34 GMT 7
Post by oldmike on Sept 4, 2006 8:02:34 GMT 7
Old Mike - Do you honestly believe that taking a holiday in Burma is a good move for the Burmese people, or don't you care? If you really believe people should go there, then please put forward your argument. If you really don't care, and ticking another place off in your list of countries visited is more important to you than making a stand against a brutal regime, then I'm lost for words. Dear Mimi. I sit in awe of your high moral status. I presume that you never visit China or buy anything made there because of the repressive non democratic regime? Of course you walk everywhere, use vegetable oil lamps and have a windmill to power your PC because most of the oil in the world is produced by repressive non democratic regimes. You cannot drink coffee because most of it comes from Viet Nam, another non democratic country. "English" tea is out, too because it comes from Sri Lanka where the government is killing the legitimate aspirations of the Tamils. Admiringly, Old Mike
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Burma
Sept 4, 2006 13:05:07 GMT 7
Post by mimi on Sept 4, 2006 13:05:07 GMT 7
Can't be bothered. You've clearly justified it to yourself and despite the evidence on this thread and your other 'Myanmar' thread you are unmoved. Not into beating my head against a brick wall.
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