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Post by asianracism on Mar 27, 2008 9:39:52 GMT 7
The website www.asianracism.blogspot.com has been updated with a section on racism faced by the Tibetan's in their homeland. I think it's a massive travesty of justice that the rest of the world is allowing a people to have their language, culture and religion be suppressed all in the name of a pseudo-national 'unity' but then again the rest of the world also turned it's back on the Baltic peoples as well, so I suppose this latest example of racism in Asia shouldn't take me by surprise. |
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Post by madmacs on Mar 27, 2008 12:23:31 GMT 7
I think it's a massive travesty of justice that the rest of the world is allowing a people to have their language, culture and religion be suppressed all in the name of a pseudo-national 'unity' I don't think it's in the name of 'unity' of whatever. It's simply because China is the largest economic power in the world, and no country wants to have its corporations banned from China. Which makes me wonder what kind of 'superpower' it will be once it asserts itself in the world. While the US has been a very nasty 'superpower', and the same can be said about the UK, one has to admit that there is some debate in the US about what is right and what is wrong. So, why the US has been supporting fascist dictators, terrorist organisations, the torture and murder of union leaders, etc. there are some people in the US who protest about the foreign policy of their government. Not the same protests are allowed in China. That's not a very good sign in my opinion. |
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Post by other side of the dark on Mar 28, 2008 12:38:12 GMT 7
I'm not sure China is in a position to ban corporations willy nilly. Take iron ore, three or four companies in the world control about 75% of the supply. If just ONE of them is banned, or decides no longer to sell to china, or is barred from selling to China the affect will be to make it more expensive for China to get iron ore. Sure, in the short-term the company involved will have to shop around for new customers but in today's resource boom that wouldn't be hard and China, quit frankly, needs to iron ore more than the company needs China.
As such I think it's more about SALES to China rather than developing companies IN China. So you aren't allowed to build in China for supporting Tibet? so what? just move the operation to Vietnam or Burma or central asia, lots of options in the world.
This is where China needs to be careful. If the US and EU ever put serious tarrifs on Chinese goods, or revert to protectionism it will hurt China alot more than Inida (China being built on the export of goods, India or services and domestic economy) or the US and EU, which, to be honest, probably could do with a healthy does of high inflation to reduce the made consumption-based society to a more sustainable level.
How does this relate to China? well, already you are seeing grassroots movements started in the 80's and 90's in some western countries to tie free trade directly to political outcomes and commonality. A trivial example: we will allow goods from XYZ country in tarrif free once they remove the death penalty. By linking specific economic access rights to political rights you are encouraing trade between countries with the most in common politically and, arguably, culturally. I see this as a positive and hope that the rest of the world moves in that direction.
China is not yet a super-power, it that belongs alone at this point in time to the US, and if it was ever truly unified, the EU. China is a rising power, the US and EU are still, INMHO, rising just not as fast as India, China, Russia. The future will see multiple super-powers and I believe that China is already learning that with great power comes great responsibility - like it or not. Protests in Africa over the poor pay and treatment of workers employed by Chinese companies is only one example that China has yet to learn from the wests experience in being a global power and about the risks to reputation of foreign investment.
China's 'middle kingdom soft power approach' is doomed to fail as when you are in a position of power you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. That said, i prefer a super-power where discussion about what is right and wrong is allowed and a freedom (i.e EU, US, India)
Btw, awesome blog OP, keep it up!
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Post by asianracism on Mar 30, 2008 8:35:09 GMT 7
Mad mac, very good point about how scary China would be as a super power... much like the USSR was, but with the added poison of having to 'live up' to it's own 'glorious history' PP, very nice post and lots to think about. I take it you are a fan of the Samuel P. Huntington view of the world in 50 years time? mind if it use some of your material on my blog about Asian Racism www.asianracism.blogspot.com ? let me know if it's OK. |
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Post by madmacs on Mar 31, 2008 8:29:26 GMT 7
other side of the dark, you are talking about an ideal world in which governments actually give a damn about people. Unfortunately governments are run by greedy and selfish individuals who make a lot of money off the poor. These people are the ones that make money with investing in China (or selling to China) and they couldn't care less about the Chinese workers who work for a pittance, or the cultural genocide in Tibet.
Having said this, I fully agree that the outside world can do a lot to influence a country. If the outside world (or just China) withdrew all the money it has lent to the US, the US would be bankrupt tomorrow. If it stopped lending the US money, the US would also be bankrupt. If it stopped lending the US US$, the US would also be bankrupt, etc.
The same is true for China. If the world stopped importing Chinese goods, China would be in very very very big trouble. But I just don't see this coming any time soon.
And I don't think that the US is still a superpower. Certainly militarily yes, but economically China and Europe are stronger, and you can't have a military might without an economic might. Every empire that declined (the Roman for example) went through the same process:
a strong economy that sustained a strong military, and when the economy declined they failed to reduce the military, until eventually the military expenditures made the country bankrupt. This is what has happened to the US thanks to Bush. Will the US recover and re-become a world economic superpower? I don't think so.
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you sheeple are so blinkered
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Post by you sheeple are so blinkered on Apr 18, 2008 3:12:34 GMT 7
All your information on "Tibetan crackdown" is based on news reports from the Western media.
Get a life, pawns, you're being manipulated.
EVERYONE knows that the US is using this Tibet issue to destabilise the region and its borders. EVERYONE knows that the Dalai Lama and his rebel organisation is funded by none other than the CIA.
And India, democratic? Caste free and racism free too, right? Yeah right!
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western style human rights
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Post by western style human rights on Apr 18, 2008 10:20:13 GMT 7
'Aboriginal children were guinea pigs'
April 17, 2008
LIKE guinea pigs, they were held captive and then injected with leprosy for experimental testing.
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Aborigines rally for the 'stolen generations'. Picture: AFP
That was the fate of some aboriginal children who were taken from their parents and put into institutions, claims an aboriginal woman whose uncle had worked in one of these institutions.
Kathleen Mills from the Stolen Generations Alliance revealed these horrific details in an Australian senate inquiry into the Stolen Generation Compensation Bill 2008 yesterday, reported Australia's AAP news agency.
The bill aims to set up a A$5 million ($6.2 million) fund to provide individual members of the aboriginal community with compensation for their forced removal from their families.
On the first day of hearings in Darwin yesterday, Ms Mills said the public did not know the full extent of what happened to some children.
She added that efforts to obtain records, which support claims that the children were injected with serums to gauge their reaction to the medication, had been hampered.
'These are the things that have not been spoken about,' Ms Mills said.
Speaking to reporters, Ms Mills said her uncle had been a medical orderly at the Kahlin Compound in Darwin.
She said he told her that children were used as 'guinea pigs' for leprosy treatments.
'He said it made our people very, very ill... the treatment almost killed them,' she said.
'It was a common experience and a common practice. People are very inhibited to speak about their experience and it is not a nice subject. I don't want them to be shamed.'
SHOCKED AND ALARMED
Greens Senator Bob Brown said the allegations 'shocked and alarmed' him.
'It may be right, it may not. It needs investigation,' he said of the claims.
'If within the indigenous community there is a feeling that children may have been experimented upon for a treatment for leprosy or anything else, the air needs to be cleared.'
Ms Mills said information to do with the testing would be in health department archives and she called on the Australian government to assist in 'opening Pandora's box'.
Payments from the fund will be given to victims of the stolen generations, including living descendants.
Ex gratia payments would be set at A$20,000 as a common experience payment, with an additional A$3,000 for each year of institutionalisation.
Meanwhile, Rodney Dillon, from the National Sorry Day Committee, said that while the Government debated action, aboriginal elders entitled to compensation were dying.
'We are going to lose a lot of people between now and the next time this Bill is put on the table,' he said.
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Post by madmacs on Apr 18, 2008 17:02:24 GMT 7
All your information on "Tibetan crackdown" is based on news reports from the Western media. Get a life, pawns, you're being manipulated. EVERYONE knows that the US is using this Tibet issue to destabilise the region and its borders. EVERYONE knows that the Dalai Lama and his rebel organisation is funded by none other than the CIA. And India, democratic? Caste free and racism free too, right? Yeah right! Maybe you should go to Tibet and talk to the Tibetans, instead of repeating what you hear on the media outlets, whether it be CNN, CCTV, or BBC. We all know that all media outlets lie, you don't don't need to tell us. And no, India is not democratic. Neither is Singapore, the US, etc. Point? |
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I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse.
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Post by Don Corleone on Apr 24, 2008 13:53:39 GMT 7
Screw China. Boycott the Olympics!
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the world hates the chinese
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Post by the world hates the chinese on Apr 25, 2008 1:24:51 GMT 7
Taken from THE AUSTRALIAN
"A Silent Chinese"
April 21, 2008
"A Silent Chinese" writes on an anti-CNN website launched in China since the Tibet unrest began in mid-March and that has attracted a large number of hits:
WHEN we were called the sick man of Asia, we were called The Peril. When we are billed to be the next superpower, we are called The Threat. When we closed our doors, you smuggled drugs to open markets. When we embrace free trade, you blame us for taking away your jobs.
When we were falling apart, you marched in your troops and wanted your "fair share". When we were putting the broken pieces together again, "Free Tibet," you screamed, "it was an invasion!" So, we tried communism; you hated us for being communists. When we embrace capitalism, you hate us for being capitalist.
When we have a billion people, you said we were destroying the planet. When we tried to limit our numbers, you said it was human rights abuse. When we were poor, you thought we were dogs. When we (lend) you cash, you blame us for your debts.
When we build our industries, you call us polluters. When we sell you goods, you blame us for global warming. When we buy oil, you call that exploitation and genocide.
When you fight for oil, you call that liberation. When we were silent, you said you want us to have free speech. When we are silent no more, you say we are brainwashed xenophobics. Why do you hate us so much? We ask. "No," you answer. "We don't hate you." We don't hate you, either, but do you understand us?
What do you really want from us?
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Post by coconut on Apr 25, 2008 10:22:48 GMT 7
It's not just Tibet / China. What about Sri Lanka? Or Africa - nothing useful seems to get done about the genocide happening there. Ah - those countries don't have important natural resources. My mistake.
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Post by madmacs on Apr 25, 2008 11:28:31 GMT 7
the world hates the Chinese, you get it wrong. And it's not that everybody says these things, it's that some people say one thing, and some people say the opposite.
e.g.:
Only xenophobic right wing Christian American Caucasians call China "The Threat"
Only British smuggled in drugs (and then started two wars when you said "no more")
Only blue collar people working in labour-intensive industries think that you take away our jobs. I don't for example.
Etc.
And nobody calls you genocidal for buying oil. Duh!
Basically, you are listening to isolated voices and saying that "people say this", while of course only a few people say this, another few people say that, etc.
And stop thinking that all Caucasians are the same.
It's not that all Asians are the same, is it? All Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Thai, Indians, Indonesians, Philippine, etc. think alike? Of course not, so stop generalising and thinking that all Caucasians think alike.
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