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Post by AsianRacism on Jan 10, 2008 11:54:27 GMT 7
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Post by oldmike on Jan 10, 2008 14:14:23 GMT 7
unfortunately racism is universal.
So are hypocrites
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Post by My 2 cents on Jan 11, 2008 8:54:13 GMT 7
I don't really see anything bad with trying to keep low ethnic diversity in a country.
Probably one of the most ethnically diverse countries in the world is the US, and you can see the huge problems they are having with criminality and racism. Of course ethnic diversity breeds ethnic hatred (just see Iraq, the Balcans, Kenya, etc.).
It doesn't mean that if a country doesn't have any ethnic diversity it doesn't have any problems or criminality, but of course when there are problems people tend to blame 'the other', and this breeds tensions and possibly civil wars.
My 2 cents.
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Post by Asian Racism on Jan 13, 2008 8:40:15 GMT 7
You are 100% correct. After two decades (into my third now) working in Asia i've just had enough of the 'but <insert name of western country is racist, so you can't criticize' mentality. I'm also fairly amused (and annoyed) at the notion held by many in people asia that racism is what happens to them even when i point out that they do it to minorities themselves and get a 'but it's different when we do it' response. It's like only 'western' or 'white' people are racist. So i had enough and built a blog to provide a collection of articles on asian racism and links to various anti-racism resources around the world. unfortunately racism is universal. So are hypocrites |
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Post by My 2 cents on Jan 14, 2008 7:58:01 GMT 7
Who is correct? oldmike or myself?
You don't seem to address my point. What's wrong with trying to keep ethnic diversity in a country low? But of course people shouldn't whine that some countries do it, if their country does it too.
But then, those who wine are probably citizens who have experienced racism, while those who implement racist policies are usually politicians...
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Post by oldmike on Jan 14, 2008 14:26:57 GMT 7
There is a lobby that holds that onlw whites can be racist.
see this from
"Fred on Everything."
A Craving for Tyranny
Democracy--Good Idea, Didn't Work
November 1, 2007
Diversity. Always diversity. I learn that the University of Delaware has instituted mandatory indoctrination of students to make them appreciate diversity. Delaware is going to eradicate racism, sexism, and all. It's going to make the world safe for diversity.
I thought diversity just meant that you had to buy a new bicycle three times a year.
From the university’s training material, “A RACIST: A racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. 'The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality. By this definition, people of color cannot be racists, because as peoples within the U.S. system, they do not have the power to back up their prejudices, hostilities, or acts of discrimination…."
The program (do read the original) is pure mind-control, as much as anything Goebbels or the Soviet Union employed. In training sessions, the student must confess to bad-thought, outline his diversity-failings in detail, and abase himself before a thought-leader. Progress in good-thought will be monitored and records kept. You must learn that you are an oppressor, and you must be reformed. We will tell you what to think. It is for your own good….
The national symptoms roll on. The United States is in the middle of a portentous abandonment, rapid now, of the ideas that led to the founding of the country, and certainly of what were previously regarded as the purposes of a university. It is the strangest damned thing I have seen. Americas never lived up to its ideals—who or what does?—but it actually tried to and at least said it wanted to. Often it succeeded. Now it deliberately reverses all it stood for.
Curious. Usually it is a government that imposes control over the population. Extreme governments of the right seek absolute control over behavior, and those of the left, over thought. But it is usually the government.
In America the universities do it—help do it, I should say, since government too works against what the country was. No gauleiter or commissar from Washington tells the universities what to inculcate. There is no need. All by themselves they abandon the notion of teaching the young to think for themselves. The tone is Marxist in its contempt for students, almost hostility: They are dough to be shaped. Behind this is the devouring passive aggression of minor minds who have found themselves in power.
How must this appear to the students at Delaware? The young I suspect do not know that things were not always thus. I went to a small, very Republican, Southern college these many years ago. In those days communism was thought poorly of. Yet in my survey course on philosophy, we learned what Marx thought, not what to think about Marx. The readings represented his ideas fairly. For further knowledge, go to the library. We were expected to come to our own conclusions, and did. A different world.
I find it fascinating that it is the white professoriate that so intently imposes belief in an imaginary racism, that so fervently reviles whites. Apparently academic liberalism is an autoimmune disease. The smugness would curdle milk.
The document of the University of Delaware that sets out the program runs to ninety-nine painful pages, couched in the sorry English of the half-educated who want to sound learned. It contains transcripts of some of the one-on-one sessions of indoctrination. The example below was described as the worst interview, meaning that the student didn’t respond as desired. I have no idea who she was, but she has my whole-hearted admiration. Records the inquisitor:
“When she [the student], left I read the exercise. This is what it stated:
1) When were you first made aware of your race?
“That is irrelevant to everything. My race is human being.”
2) When did you discover your sexual identity?
“That is none of your damn business.”
3) Who taught you a lesson in regards to some form of diversity awareness? What was that lesson?
“My grandparents sometimes made racial comments. And what the hell does that have to do with anything?”
4) When was a time when you confronted someone regarding an issue of diversity? What was the confrontation about? If you haven’t, why not?
“Why would I do something like that? Diversity exists. I like it. Leave it at that.”
5) When was a time you felt oppressed? Who was oppressing you? How did you feel?
“I am oppressed everyday on the basis of my undying and devout feelings for the opera. Regularly passersby throw stones at me and jeer me with cruel names. Because of this I am exiled and often contemplate suicide. Unbearable adversity. But I will overcome, hear me, you rock-loving majority. (This is called ‘sarcasm.’)”
Etc.
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Post by AsianRacism on Jan 15, 2008 14:49:33 GMT 7
Old Mike;
Do you have a link to the original article? i'd love to put that on my site.
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Post by My 2 cents on Jan 15, 2008 15:25:41 GMT 7
Why don't you select a sentence or something and do a google search? Oh yes, ignore me, ignore me...  |
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Post by oldmike on Jan 16, 2008 8:10:23 GMT 7
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Post by Brit coconut on Jan 18, 2008 1:10:16 GMT 7
I, for one, find that for all the purported 'racial harmony', there's more and blatant racism in Singapore than in London, though I've suffered verbal abuse from punks over there.
But I wanted to digress: do you think that (some) black Americans are racist and/or have a kind of 'inverted racism'? I mean, they sometimes seem to have the attitude that if you're not black, then your ancestors didn't suffer through slavery etc, whether or not their ancestors did go over to the US as slaves, or whether or not they've gone straight over from Africa in the last generation or so. The only non-black rappers that come to mind are Vanilla Ice and Fergie, as though only blacks can rap.
Sometimes, people seem to have the attitude of 'I'm from a minority ethnic group, and if I don't like what you're saying, I'm going to twist it to make it sound as though you're being racist'
Just wondering. Or possibly wandering...
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Post by oldmike on Jan 18, 2008 18:32:09 GMT 7
I, for one, find that for all the purported 'racial harmony', there's more and blatant racism in Singapore than in London, though I've suffered verbal abuse from punks over there. But I wanted to digress: do you think that (some) black Americans are racist and/or have a kind of 'inverted racism'? I mean, they sometimes seem to have the attitude that if you're not black, then your ancestors didn't suffer through slavery etc, whether or not their ancestors did go over to the US as slaves, or whether or not they've gone straight over from Africa in the last generation or so. The only non-black rappers that come to mind are Vanilla Ice and Fergie, as though only blacks can rap. Sometimes, people seem to have the attitude of 'I'm from a minority ethnic group, and if I don't like what you're saying, I'm going to twist it to make it sound as though you're being racist' Just wondering. Or possibly wandering... I have often thought the same thing. I think it comes from a deep seated sense of inferiority, justified or not. There can be nothing more racist than Affirmative Action. Promoting someone who has a particular skin colour though they are less competent than a candidate with a different hue. It sends the message that the advantaged individual is inferior and is only being preferred from politically correct motives. |
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